in behalf of the horrific events of saturday night, i just wanted to take a moment to remind everyone that islam is a religion of peace.
it doesn’t matter that the quran explicitly says that homosexuals should be stoned to death (7:84) - it’s still a religion of peace.
and it doesn’t matter that the scriptures say that all gay men should be killed (sunan 1:152) - islam doesn’t in anyway condone violence.. it doesn’t matter that every mainstream imam calls homosexuality a sin "worse the adultery" - it’s not a religion of bigotry.. it doesn’t matter that 61% of muslims in the uk think gay acts should be made illegal - islam has nothing against the gay community.. it doesn’t matter that countries with sharia law actively persecute the lgbt community - islam is all about peace and love.
It's the very SAME.
Anyone who identifies as a Christian or when we find out their family is Christian, or the person was raised under the Christian faith, let Christian leaders come out and denounce that the action of said 'Christian' criminal.
Start with the NRA and all the gun nuts. This will help more than just blaming a particular religion.
DY
in behalf of the horrific events of saturday night, i just wanted to take a moment to remind everyone that islam is a religion of peace.
it doesn’t matter that the quran explicitly says that homosexuals should be stoned to death (7:84) - it’s still a religion of peace.
and it doesn’t matter that the scriptures say that all gay men should be killed (sunan 1:152) - islam doesn’t in anyway condone violence.. it doesn’t matter that every mainstream imam calls homosexuality a sin "worse the adultery" - it’s not a religion of bigotry.. it doesn’t matter that 61% of muslims in the uk think gay acts should be made illegal - islam has nothing against the gay community.. it doesn’t matter that countries with sharia law actively persecute the lgbt community - islam is all about peace and love.
Islam has to do with the recent Orlando shootout the same way Christianity has to do withTim McVeigh's, Adam Lanza's, the Bundy crew of thugs', the Columbine shooters', the several abortion clinics shooters/boombers, etc., all of their actions.
Hate manifests itself regardless of the religious beliefs.
And while we're in the subject, different Islamic leaders have come out in public to denounce this latest crime. Can we, from this point forward, get Christian leaders to come out in public and denounce the crimes committed by people that call themselves Christians???
DY
absolute obedience to watchtower cult leaders is only necessary because of coercion and intimidation and the duress of having the shun gun pointed at their head for those jw's who are now awake.
the threat is as real as that of a fully loaded pistol.. .
we are all aware of friends and family who are still inside the kingdom halls with very little actual conviction that they are in the truth.
All of us disillusioned also remain inside, especially the ones that have spent a lifetime at this game, because it's what our 'normal', it's what 'speaks' to us; we've made lifelong friends, and if to boot the immediate/extended family is 'inside' also, then it's much more difficult to walk away.
Do not be sad, though, we make it work so that we find happiness in our status.
In the Spanish side is quite easy to be 'awakened', inside and still be happy because we culturally speaking are very gregarious and fun-loving, always some type of a party and we have such a good time at those occasions.
It works for me, it just does. No need for pity here.
DY
me and my wife were at the beach the other day and i finally told her, i don't think i believe in god anymore.
i fessed up to the fact that it started with me doubting some jw beliefs and then it just led me to this point where i don't even believe in god.
i wouldn't say that i even have a negative view towards jw's or religion in general.
If you love her and she respects your stance, why not?
If not, all she says/does will just make you angry; so, just end it amicably now.
DY
boondoggles and preppers watchtower style!
a religion of doom and luxury!.
in 1866, the times of london wrote:.
Terry,
Man, you got too much f'ing time in your hands.
Yes, the WTBTS does exist in style; even the structures they erect in 3rd world countries is way nicer than the local stuff there.
You all ought to see the luxury of Warwick, especially inside the building that houses the GB. Super, super, super plush!!!
Stuff like this is what makes many a JW skeptical of their imminent doomsday message.
DY
it's interesting to observe that in all aspects of life, leaders are accountable to those they lead.. politicians must fulfil their promises, or they are replaced from government.. business corporate leaders like ceos must perform, or they are replaced.. sports coaches and trainers must win, or they are replaced.. yet there are leaders who have often been wrong, have made serious ,mistakes and failed predictions that have impacted the lives of millions.. they have dictated decisions for the lives of millions, yet they can't even be questioned...even in a sincere or polite manner..
A 'normal' JW does not engage in blind obedience.
Many JWs hear all that the WTBTS has to say because we happen not to be deaf, but obeying blindly is a totally different thing and for the most part is certainly NOT done.
Relax.
DY
so i have no choice but to go to the cool-aid fest rc.
my question is this....do any of you know on what days the videos will show, for how long and which ones?.
my plan is leave my seat with my son's when the bunker video comes on and more videos that are stronger with the.
Good plan. Children SHOULD NOT watch these videos.
I'll take my iPad so that I can be distracted as much as possible during the program.
This latest 'The wolf is coming' scream reminds me of the early 70s/mid 80s and mid-to-late-90s hysteria.
It's not conducive to a well-balanced mental state at all.
DY
great news!.
we are free!.
as of the 9th of june, me and my dear wife mrs. eden handed over our letters of disassociation at bethel in portugal, thus making official our departure from the jehovah's witnesses.
Congratulations!
The whole family on the same page is always good.
Be well.
DY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9omh-eip3ng.
Do not be alarmed as this is nothing new. The Gospels read that if a man sees a woman with lust he's already committed adultery in his heart, so this thought bullshit is not new at all, just same old dogma modeled after our 'rules Book'.
The normal JW/person knows we cannot control thoughts, just like we cannot control dreams, etc. What we CAN control is not marinating/basking/caressing an inappropriate thought, for this is what leads to the 'act'.
No person can control thoughts that arise in the mind, it's part of our human imperfection. It's impossible and I'm sure God knows this too.
So, do not go too crazy about it.
DY
hi new to this forum but not so new to ttatt.
i was just wondering how nice it would be to know each other in real life.
i have got few friends in jw who are fully awake but still hanging because of family.
That's what Apostafests are for, isn't it?
Also, I believe we absolutely know who's an awakened JW; it manifests itself in their behavior, speech, demeanor.
DY
